Ho perso l'ambiente grafico dopo disistallazione gnome

sasomao, 15/11/2007 17.17:

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Ho trovato un altro problema, se vado nel menu KAD/sistema/rete mi appare la finestra che chiede l'autenticazione come root, metto la psw, la accetta ma non apre la finestra delle reti

Idee?
S.

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Niente, non riesco a risolvere questo.
Sono andato direttamente all'eseguibile a cui punta il comando (cioè /etc/bin/system-config-network) ma non funziona.
Che cavolo è successo adesso!?

In più nel menù di KDE è sparito l'utility di installazione/disistallazione programmi!

Io c'ho tanta voglia di passare a Linux, ma non è possibile che ogni volta mia fa di sti casini, ci lavoro col pc, non posso stare piu tampo a capire cosa di è guastato, che a lavorarci.
Ora non voglio reinstallare da capo fedora (o altra distro) e dovere da capo ripersonalizzare tutto, reinstallare i driver video, quelli audio, ecc ecc ecc. non è possibile!

S.

sasomao, 11/15/2007 5:17 PM:

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Ho trovato un altro problema, se vado nel menu KAD/sistema/rete mi appare la finestra che chiede l'autenticazione come root, metto la psw, la accetta ma non apre la finestra delle reti

Idee?
S.

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Hai provato ad aprirla da shell come root?

escanor, 15/11/2007 18.24:

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Hai provato ad aprirla da shell come root?

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si, mi apre solo una pagina in shell in cui mi domanda se voglio eth0 come scheda di rete, non posso fare nient'altro di quello che si puo' fare col comando grafico (controllare il mio ip, ecc ecc)

Sono veramente rassegnato, torno a windows. Non è possibile sto casino, e poi ancora non sono riuscito a fare funzionare il wifi .

sasomao, 11/15/2007 6:28 PM:

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si, mi apre solo una pagina in shell in cui mi domanda se voglio eth0 come scheda di rete, non posso fare nient'altro di quello che si puo' fare col comando grafico (controllare il mio ip, ecc ecc)

Sono veramente rassegnato, torno a windows. Non è possibile sto casino, e poi ancora non sono riuscito a fare funzionare il wifi .

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Mi spiace sul serio...temo che questa marea di problemi sia diretta conseguenza di quanto accaduto prima....e non conoscendo cosi' a fondo fedora (l'ho usata per poco tempo quasi un anno fa) non posso fornirti un aiuto maggiormente concreto...
...mi spiace ancor di più che torni a windows sarò sincero... ....da questo momento non rivolgermi più la parola.....

escanor, 15/11/2007 18.37:

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Mi spiace sul serio...temo che questa marea di problemi sia diretta conseguenza di quanto accaduto prima....e non conoscendo cosi' a fondo fedora (l'ho usata per poco tempo quasi un anno fa) non posso fornirti un aiuto maggiormente concreto...
...mi spiace ancor di più che torni a windows sarò sincero... ....da questo momento non rivolgermi più la parola.....

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anche a me, ma che altro posso fare?
Oggi sono stato tutto il giorno a provare a risolvere sti problemi.
Se ora reistallo devo perdere altri 2-3 gg solo per reistallre i driver e le personalizzazioni


Cmq grazie per esesrti sbattuto per aiutarmi
S:

sasomao, 11/15/2007 6:40 PM:

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anche a me, ma che altro posso fare?
Oggi sono stato tutto il giorno a provare a risolvere sti problemi.
Se ora reistallo devo perdere altri 2-3 gg solo per reistallre i driver e le personalizzazioni


Cmq grazie per esesrti sbattuto per aiutarmi
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Guarda io in primis prima di arrivare ad avere un sistema perfettamente funzionante ho sbattuto la testa un migliaio di volte provando decine di distribuzioni e passando giornate intere a configurare un server grafico (che bei ricordi.. ) e risolvere problemi....ora grazie a dio ho raggiunto un certo livello di maturità e certe cose riesco a prevenirle o comunque venirne a capo in breve tempo ma mi rendo conto che non tutti ne hanno molto a disposizione per linux (ora nemmeno io ad essere sinceri) e preferiscono possedere un sistema perfettamente funzionante fin da subito...io fossi in te prima di tornare a quella ciofeca di xp proverei a vedere kubuntu...quantomeno se risolvi i vari problemi che hai con fedora...prova la live e verifica tu stesso...tanto un sistema operativo devi comunque installarlo...

escanor, 15/11/2007 18.50:

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Guarda io in primis prima di arrivare ad avere un sistema perfettamente funzionante ho sbattuto la testa un migliaio di volte provando decine di distribuzioni e passando giornate intere a configurare un server grafico (che bei ricordi.. ) e risolvere problemi....ora grazie a dio ho raggiunto un certo livello di maturità e certe cose riesco a prevenirle o comunque venirne a capo in breve tempo ma mi rendo conto che non tutti ne hanno molto a disposizione per linux (ora nemmeno io ad essere sinceri) e preferiscono possedere un sistema perfettamente funzionante fin da subito...io fossi in te prima di tornare a quella ciofeca di xp proverei a vedere kubuntu...quantomeno se risolvi i vari problemi che hai con fedora...prova la live e verifica tu stesso...tanto un sistema operativo devi comunque installarlo...

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Ciao Esca,

mi sto mettendo a tempo perso per vedere se ne cavo qualcosa.
Intanto ti volevo chiedere qualocsa, che penso tu sappia, in quanto credo valida per ogni distro.
Parlo della disistallazione di GNOME,
seguendo la guida che mi avevi linkato, cioè il comando
groupremove GNOME Desktop Environment

mi chiede di disistallare 104 pacchetti (ho detto no!), fra cui il server nvidia per X11 (è questo che deve avere causato i casini ieri) e firefox, e thunderbird...insomma un sacco di cose che non sono veramente legati al ambiente grafico GNOME.
Come posso fare per fare capire a linux cosa voglio e nn voglio disistallare? Non mi dire che mi devo fare a mano tutte le 100 cose che voglio cancellare (gran parte non so neppure cosa sono fra l'altro!)

S.

sasomao, 11/15/2007 11:05 PM:

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Ciao Esca,

mi sto mettendo a tempo perso per vedere se ne cavo qualcosa.
Intanto ti volevo chiedere qualocsa, che penso tu sappia, in quanto credo valida per ogni distro.
Parlo della disistallazione di GNOME,
seguendo la guida che mi avevi linkato, cioè il comando
groupremove GNOME Desktop Environment

mi chiede di disistallare 104 pacchetti (ho detto no!), fra cui il server nvidia per X11 (è questo che deve avere causato i casini ieri) e firefox, e thunderbird...insomma un sacco di cose che non sono veramente legati al ambiente grafico GNOME.
Come posso fare per fare capire a linux cosa voglio e nn voglio disistallare? Non mi dire che mi devo fare a mano tutte le 100 cose che voglio cancellare (gran parte non so neppure cosa sono fra l'altro!)

S.

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A regola per fare le cose bene dovresti levare tutto quanto e poi da shell installare KDE da zero...comunque ho fatto caso a una cosa...in quel thread vengono listati gli elementi di gnome:



Siccome temo che per Fedora tu non possa scegliere da interfaccia i singoli programmi da togliere costringendoti a farlo da shell...perchè non provi a dare solo:

groupremove GNOME Software Development

vedendo quello che ti toglie...vado cosi' a occhio....

escanor, 16/11/2007 10.59:

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Ciao Esca,

col comando che mi segnali prova a disistallare le stesse cose che col semplice #yum groupremove GNOME.
Quindi anche firefox, X11, ecc.
Ti riporto il listato, se vuoi dare un'occhiata

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gnome-backgrounds noarch 2.16.1-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M
gnome-bluetooth i386 0.9.1-1.fc7 installed 533 k
gnome-media i386 2.18.0-3.fc7 installed 5.5 M
gnome-netstatus i386 2.12.1-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M
gnome-panel i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 11 M
gnome-pilot i386 2.0.15-5.fc7 installed 1.9 M
gnome-power-manager i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 7.8 M
gnome-screensaver i386 2.18.2-2.fc7 installed 3.2 M
gnome-session i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 1.5 M
gnome-system-monitor i386 2.18.2-1.fc7 installed 4.3 M
gnome-terminal i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 8.6 M
gnome-themes noarch 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 4.9 M
gnome-user-docs noarch 2.18.2-1.fc7 installed 19 M
gnome-user-share i386 0.11-2.fc7 installed 104 k
gnome-utils i386 1:2.18.1-2.fc7 installed 10 M
gnome-vfs2-smb i386 2.18.1-4.fc7 installed 29 k
gnome-volume-manager i386 2.17.0-7.fc7 installed 2.1 M
gok i386 1.2.2-1.fc7 installed 9.7 M
gstreamer-plugins-ugly i386 0.10.5-2.lvn7 installed 502 k
gthumb i386 2.10.7-1.fc7 installed 6.9 M
gtk2-engines i386 2.10.2-2.fc7 installed 1.1 M
im-chooser i386 0.3.4-1.fc7 installed 202 k
metacity i386 2.18.5-2.fc7 installed 10 M
nautilus i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 13 M
nautilus-cd-burner i386 2.18.2-1.fc7 installed 1.8 M
nautilus-sendto i386 0.10-4.fc7 installed 217 k
notification-daemon i386 0.3.7-2.fc7 installed 126 k
orca i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 5.2 M
scim-bridge-gtk i386 0.4.10-1.fc7 installed 71 k
tomboy i386 0.6.1-2.fc7 installed 2.9 M
vino i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 1.4 M
xdg-user-dirs-gtk i386 0.5-1.fc7 installed 37 k
yelp i386 2.18.1-7.fc7 installed 2.4 M
Removing for dependencies:
ImageMagick i386 6.3.2.9-3.fc7 installed 12 M
amarok i386 1.4.7-5.fc7 installed 28 M
bluez-gnome i386 0.8-2.fc7 installed 113 k
bluez-utils i386 3.9-2.fc7 installed 923 k
eel2 i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 1.1 M
evolution-data-server i386 1.10.3.1-2.fc7 installed 10 M
fedora-logos noarch 6.0.98-3.fc7 installed 5.2 M
firefox i386 2.0.0.9-1.fc7 installed 40 M
gdm i386 1:2.18.4-2.fc7 installed 12 M
gnome-bluetooth-libs i386 0.9.1-1.fc7 installed 121 k
gnome-desktop i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 2.2 M
gnome-mag i386 0.14.4-1.fc7 installed 396 k
gnome-mount i386 0.6-2.fc7 installed 415 k
gnome-python2 i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 598 k
gnome-python2-applet i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 16 k
gnome-python2-bonobo i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 168 k
gnome-python2-desktop i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 242 k
gnome-python2-extras i386 2.14.3-6.fc7 installed 67 k
gnome-python2-gconf i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 74 k
gnome-python2-gnomeprint i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 427 k
gnome-python2-gnomevfs i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 159 k
gnome-python2-gtksourceview i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 348 k
gnome-python2-libegg i386 2.14.3-6.fc7 installed 115 k
gnome-sharp i386 2.16.0-3.fc7 installed 1.7 M
gnome-vfs2 i386 2.18.1-4.fc7 installed 4.7 M
grub i386 0.97-13 installed 1.0 M
gstreamer-plugins-base i386 0.10.13-1.fc7 installed 1.8 M
gstreamer-plugins-good i386 0.10.6-1.fc7 installed 2.0 M
gucharmap i386 1.10.0-1.fc7 installed 5.9 M
kaffeine i386 0.8.4-1.fc7 installed 5.6 M
kde-settings-kdm noarch 3.5-30.fc7 installed 22 k
kdeaddons i386 3.5.8-2.fc7 installed 9.0 M
kdeartwork i386 3.5.8-1.fc7 installed 8.9 M
kdebase i386 6:3.5.8-3.fc7 installed 54 M
kipi-plugins i386 0.1.4-1.fc7 installed 16 M
kmod-nvidia i686 100.14.19-1.2.6.23.1_21.fc7 installed 6.5 M
konversation i386 1.0.1-2.fc6 installed 11 M
libbonoboui i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M
libgail-gnome i386 1.18.0-2.fc7 installed 62 k
libgnome i386 2.18.0-4.fc7 installed 3.7 M
libgnomekbd i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 194 k
libgnomeui i386 2.18.1-2.fc7 installed 3.2 M
libnotify i386 0.4.4-2.fc7 installed 93 k
librsvg2 i386 2.16.1-1.fc7 installed 425 k
livna-config-display noarch 0.0.19-1.lvn7 installed 265 k
nautilus-extensions i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 31 k
redhat-artwork i386 7.0.0-11.fc7 installed 7.8 M
redhat-artwork-kde i386 7.0.0-11.fc7 installed 664 k
scim i386 1.4.5-21.fc7 installed 1.3 M
scim-bridge i386 0.4.10-1.fc7 installed 275 k
scim-qtimm i386 0.9.4-7.fc7 installed 182 k
system-config-display noarch 1.0.51-1.fc7 installed 724 k
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia i386 100.14.19-3.lvn7 installed 15 M

Transaction Summary
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Install 0 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 104 Package(s)

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Non ho capito una cosa...come mai con quel comando ti rimuove un sacco di pacchetti di KDE..compreso kdebase...
Scusami ma a sto punto posso dire che fedora gestisce le cose col culo!A me è capitato più volte di dover rimuovere gnome per poi mettere KDE ma non ho MAI avuto problemi...se non vuoi formattare ti consiglio di toglierlo da shell...provando a rimuovere SOLO questa libreria:

libgnome2-0

dovrebbe portarsi dietro tutto quanto gnome...prova e dimmi cosa ti elimina.

escanor, 16/11/2007 11.58:

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Non ho capito una cosa...come mai con quel comando ti rimuove un sacco di pacchetti di KDE..compreso kdebase...
Scusami ma a sto punto posso dire che fedora gestisce le cose col culo!A me è capitato più volte di dover rimuovere gnome per poi mettere KDE ma non ho MAI avuto problemi...se non vuoi formattare ti consiglio di toglierlo da shell...provando a rimuovere SOLO questa libreria:

libgnome2-0

dovrebbe portarsi dietro tutto quanto gnome...prova e dimmi cosa ti elimina.

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Sembra già molto meglio, ti riporto solo la parte finale del listato:

Dependencies Resolved

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Package Arch Version Repository Size
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Removing:
libgnome i386 2.18.0-4.fc7 installed 3.7 M
Removing for dependencies:
NetworkManager-gnome i386 1:0.6.5-7.fc7 installed 420 k
alacarte noarch 0.11.3-3.fc7 installed 547 k
bug-buddy i386 1:2.18.0-2.fc7 installed 1.7 M
compiz i386 0.3.6-8.fc7 installed 2.5 M
control-center i386 1:2.18.0-20.fc7 installed 8.5 M
desktop-printing i386 0.20-6.fc7 installed 289 k
eel2 i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 1.1 M
eog i386 2.18.2-2.fc7 installed 3.0 M
evince i386 0.8.2-1.fc7 installed 3.3 M
evolution-data-server i386 1.10.3.1-2.fc7 installed 10 M
fast-user-switch-applet i386 2.17.4-5.fc7 installed 1.7 M
file-roller i386 2.18.4-1.fc7 installed 3.2 M
firefox i386 2.0.0.9-1.fc7 installed 40 M
gcalctool i386 5.9.14-1.fc7 installed 4.2 M
gdm i386 1:2.18.4-2.fc7 installed 12 M
gedit i386 1:2.18.2-1.fc7 installed 12 M
gnome-applets i386 1:2.18.0-7.fc7 installed 32 M
gnome-bluetooth i386 0.9.1-1.fc7 installed 533 k
gnome-bluetooth-libs i386 0.9.1-1.fc7 installed 121 k
gnome-desktop i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 2.2 M
gnome-media i386 2.18.0-3.fc7 installed 5.5 M
gnome-netstatus i386 2.12.1-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M
gnome-panel i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 11 M
gnome-pilot i386 2.0.15-5.fc7 installed 1.9 M
gnome-power-manager i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 7.8 M
gnome-python2 i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 598 k
gnome-python2-applet i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 16 k
gnome-python2-bonobo i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 168 k
gnome-python2-desktop i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 242 k
gnome-python2-extras i386 2.14.3-6.fc7 installed 67 k
gnome-python2-gconf i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 74 k
gnome-python2-gnomeprint i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 427 k
gnome-python2-gnomevfs i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 159 k
gnome-python2-gtksourceview i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 348 k
gnome-python2-libegg i386 2.14.3-6.fc7 installed 115 k
gnome-screensaver i386 2.18.2-2.fc7 installed 3.2 M
gnome-session i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 1.5 M
gnome-sharp i386 2.16.0-3.fc7 installed 1.7 M
gnome-terminal i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 8.6 M
gnome-utils i386 1:2.18.1-2.fc7 installed 10 M
gnome-volume-manager i386 2.17.0-7.fc7 installed 2.1 M
gok i386 1.2.2-1.fc7 installed 9.7 M
gthumb i386 2.10.7-1.fc7 installed 6.9 M
gucharmap i386 1.10.0-1.fc7 installed 5.9 M
im-chooser i386 0.3.4-1.fc7 installed 202 k
libbonoboui i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M
libgail-gnome i386 1.18.0-2.fc7 installed 62 k
libgnomekbd i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 194 k
libgnomeui i386 2.18.1-2.fc7 installed 3.2 M
nautilus i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 13 M
nautilus-cd-burner i386 2.18.2-1.fc7 installed 1.8 M
nautilus-sendto i386 0.10-4.fc7 installed 217 k
orca i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 5.2 M
scim i386 1.4.5-21.fc7 installed 1.3 M
scim-bridge i386 0.4.10-1.fc7 installed 275 k
scim-bridge-gtk i386 0.4.10-1.fc7 installed 71 k
scim-qtimm i386 0.9.4-7.fc7 installed 182 k
tomboy i386 0.6.1-2.fc7 installed 2.9 M
vino i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 1.4 M
yelp i386 2.18.1-7.fc7 installed 2.4 M

Transaction Summary
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Install 0 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 61 Package(s)

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Mi sa che questo è il comando giusto Un altro colpo di Escanor!

Cmq ho provato a scrivere sul sito di fedora on line, per vedere soprattutto se riesco a recuperare l'ultility di gestione Rete senza dovere formattare.
Nel frattempo sono riuscito a fare funzionare Amule

Diciamo che se risolvo 2-3 cose mi va alla grande.

Grazie mille cmq, mi hai aiutato e anche fatto compagnia in questa battaglia

S.

sasomao, 16/11/2007 12.05:

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firefox i386 2.0.0.9-1.fc7 installed 40 M

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Purtroppo c'è ancora Firefox fra le cose che se ne andrebbero

S.

Di nulla figurati...quella è la libreria che toglievo anch'io quando dovevo disinstallare gnome...e si portava dietro tutto quanto...

sasomao, 11/16/2007 12:07 PM:

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Purtroppo c'è ancora Firefox fra le cose che se ne andrebbero

S.

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E' normale...meglio dover installare solo firefox che di nuovo il server grafico....

escanor, 16/11/2007 12.10:

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E' normale...meglio dover installare solo firefox che di nuovo il server grafico....

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Ciao Esca, ecco le ultime.
Ho provato la furbata usando il comando exclude con remove, ma non ha funzionato. Quindi ho disistallato anche fedora e gdm che a priori servono (quest'ultimo credo serva almeno finche non riesco a modificare il fantomatico /etc/sysconfig/desktop)
ecco il listato

yum remove libgnome --exclude=[gdm,firefox]
Setting up Remove Process
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package libgnome.i386 0:2.18.0-4.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: bug-buddy
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-session
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-terminal
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: libbonoboui
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gthumb
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: file-roller
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: firefox
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-desktop
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-bluetooth
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: control-center
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: libgail-gnome
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gucharmap
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: eog
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-media
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gok
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: eel2
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: evolution-data-server
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-python2-libegg
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-panel
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: nautilus
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-power-manager
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: im-chooser
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-applets
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: evince
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-screensaver
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: yelp
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-volume-manager
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-pilot
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-netstatus
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: compiz
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gcalctool
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: vino
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: fast-user-switch-applet
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: nautilus-sendto
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gedit
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: libgnomekbd
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-python2-applet
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-utils
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-python2-bonobo
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-python2
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-sharp
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: gnome-bluetooth-libs
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: NetworkManager-gnome
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: libgnomeui
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: nautilus-cd-burner
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: desktop-printing
--> Running transaction check
---> Package eog.i386 0:2.18.2-2.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package evince.i386 0:0.8.2-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-terminal.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gucharmap.i386 0:1.10.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package firefox.i386 0:2.0.0.9-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-screensaver.i386 0:2.18.2-2.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package fast-user-switch-applet.i386 0:2.17.4-5.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-netstatus.i386 0:2.12.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package compiz.i386 0:0.3.6-8.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-python2.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2 >= 2.10.0 for package: gnome-python2-desktop
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2 = 2.18.1-1.fc7 for package: gnome-python2-gnomevfs
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2 = 2.18.1-1.fc7 for package: gnome-python2-gconf
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2 >= 2.9.0 for package: gnome-python2-extras
---> Package nautilus.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package eel2.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package NetworkManager-gnome.i386 1:0.6.5-7.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gthumb.i386 0:2.10.7-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-python2-bonobo.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gcalctool.i386 0:5.9.14-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package file-roller.i386 0:2.18.4-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-utils.i386 1:2.18.1-2.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package libgail-gnome.i386 0:1.18.0-2.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-panel.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gok.i386 0:1.2.2-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gedit.i386 1:2.18.2-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package libgnomeui.i386 0:2.18.1-2.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: libgnomeui >= 2.2.0 for package: gdm
---> Package gnome-python2-libegg.i386 0:2.14.3-6.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package libgnomekbd.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-applets.i386 1:2.18.0-7.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-desktop.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-media.i386 0:2.18.0-3.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package yelp.i386 0:2.18.1-7.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package vino.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-bluetooth-libs.i386 0:0.9.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-volume-manager.i386 0:2.17.0-7.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-pilot.i386 0:2.0.15-5.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-python2-applet.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package control-center.i386 1:2.18.0-20.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: control-center >= 2.16.0-5 for package: orca
---> Package libbonoboui.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package nautilus-sendto.i386 0:0.10-4.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package bug-buddy.i386 1:2.18.0-2.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-sharp.i386 0:2.16.0-3.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: mono(gconf-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 for package: tomboy
--> Processing Dependency: mono(gconf-sharp-peditors) = 2.16.0.0 for package: tomboy
--> Processing Dependency: mono(gnome-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 for package: tomboy
---> Package gnome-power-manager.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package im-chooser.i386 0:0.3.4-1.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: im-chooser for package: scim
---> Package gnome-bluetooth.i386 0:0.9.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package desktop-printing.i386 0:0.20-6.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package evolution-data-server.i386 0:1.10.3.1-2.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-session.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package nautilus-cd-burner.i386 0:2.18.2-1.fc7 set to be erased
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gnome-python2-extras.i386 0:2.14.3-6.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package orca.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-python2-desktop.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-desktop = 2.18.0-1.fc7 for package: gnome-python2-gnomeprint
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-desktop = 2.18.0-1.fc7 for package: gnome-python2-gtksourceview
---> Package gnome-python2-gconf.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gconf for package: alacarte
---> Package tomboy.i386 0:0.6.1-2.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package scim.i386 0:1.4.5-21.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: scim >= 1.4.5-8 for package: scim-qtimm
--> Processing Dependency: scim >= 1.4.5-8 for package: scim-bridge
---> Package gnome-python2-gnomevfs.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gdm.i386 1:2.18.4-2.fc7 set to be erased
--> Running transaction check
---> Package scim-bridge.i386 0:0.4.10-1.fc7 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: scim-bridge = 0.4.10-1.fc7 for package: scim-bridge-gtk
---> Package scim-qtimm.i386 0:0.9.4-7.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-python2-gnomeprint.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package gnome-python2-gtksourceview.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be erased
---> Package alacarte.noarch 0:0.11.3-3.fc7 set to be erased
--> Running transaction check
---> Package scim-bridge-gtk.i386 0:0.4.10-1.fc7 set to be erased
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

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Package Arch Version Repository Size
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Removing:
libgnome i386 2.18.0-4.fc7 installed 3.7 M
Removing for dependencies:
NetworkManager-gnome i386 1:0.6.5-7.fc7 installed 420 k
alacarte noarch 0.11.3-3.fc7 installed 547 k
bug-buddy i386 1:2.18.0-2.fc7 installed 1.7 M
compiz i386 0.3.6-8.fc7 installed 2.5 M
control-center i386 1:2.18.0-20.fc7 installed 8.5 M
desktop-printing i386 0.20-6.fc7 installed 289 k
eel2 i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 1.1 M
eog i386 2.18.2-2.fc7 installed 3.0 M
evince i386 0.8.2-1.fc7 installed 3.3 M
evolution-data-server i386 1.10.3.1-2.fc7 installed 10 M
fast-user-switch-applet i386 2.17.4-5.fc7 installed 1.7 M
file-roller i386 2.18.4-1.fc7 installed 3.2 M
firefox i386 2.0.0.9-1.fc7 installed 40 M
gcalctool i386 5.9.14-1.fc7 installed 4.2 M
gdm i386 1:2.18.4-2.fc7 installed 12 M
gedit i386 1:2.18.2-1.fc7 installed 12 M
gnome-applets i386 1:2.18.0-7.fc7 installed 32 M
gnome-bluetooth i386 0.9.1-1.fc7 installed 533 k
gnome-bluetooth-libs i386 0.9.1-1.fc7 installed 121 k
gnome-desktop i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 2.2 M
gnome-media i386 2.18.0-3.fc7 installed 5.5 M
gnome-netstatus i386 2.12.1-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M
gnome-panel i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 11 M
gnome-pilot i386 2.0.15-5.fc7 installed 1.9 M
gnome-power-manager i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 7.8 M
gnome-python2 i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 598 k
gnome-python2-applet i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 16 k
gnome-python2-bonobo i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 168 k
gnome-python2-desktop i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 242 k
gnome-python2-extras i386 2.14.3-6.fc7 installed 67 k
gnome-python2-gconf i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 74 k
gnome-python2-gnomeprint i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 427 k
gnome-python2-gnomevfs i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 159 k
gnome-python2-gtksourceview i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 348 k
gnome-python2-libegg i386 2.14.3-6.fc7 installed 115 k
gnome-screensaver i386 2.18.2-2.fc7 installed 3.2 M
gnome-session i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 1.5 M
gnome-sharp i386 2.16.0-3.fc7 installed 1.7 M
gnome-terminal i386 2.18.1-1.fc7 installed 8.6 M
gnome-utils i386 1:2.18.1-2.fc7 installed 10 M
gnome-volume-manager i386 2.17.0-7.fc7 installed 2.1 M
gok i386 1.2.2-1.fc7 installed 9.7 M
gthumb i386 2.10.7-1.fc7 installed 6.9 M
gucharmap i386 1.10.0-1.fc7 installed 5.9 M
im-chooser i386 0.3.4-1.fc7 installed 202 k
libbonoboui i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 1.2 M
libgail-gnome i386 1.18.0-2.fc7 installed 62 k
libgnomekbd i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 194 k
libgnomeui i386 2.18.1-2.fc7 installed 3.2 M
nautilus i386 2.18.3-1.fc7 installed 13 M
nautilus-cd-burner i386 2.18.2-1.fc7 installed 1.8 M
nautilus-sendto i386 0.10-4.fc7 installed 217 k
orca i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 5.2 M
scim i386 1.4.5-21.fc7 installed 1.3 M
scim-bridge i386 0.4.10-1.fc7 installed 275 k
scim-bridge-gtk i386 0.4.10-1.fc7 installed 71 k
scim-qtimm i386 0.9.4-7.fc7 installed 182 k
tomboy i386 0.6.1-2.fc7 installed 2.9 M
vino i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 installed 1.4 M
yelp i386 2.18.1-7.fc7 installed 2.4 M

Transaction Summary
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Install 0 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 61 Package(s)

Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
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I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/gconf/schemas/pilot.schemas"
Apertura di "/etc/gconf/schemas/pilot.schemas" fallita: No such file or directory
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Removed: libgnome.i386 0:2.18.0-4.fc7
Dependency Removed: NetworkManager-gnome.i386 1:0.6.5-7.fc7 alacarte.noarch 0:0.11.3-3.fc7 bug-buddy.i386 1:2.18.0-2.fc7 compiz.i386 0:0.3.6-8.fc7 control-center.i386 1:2.18.0-20.fc7 desktop-printing.i386 0:0.20-6.fc7 eel2.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 eog.i386 0:2.18.2-2.fc7 evince.i386 0:0.8.2-1.fc7 evolution-data-server.i386 0:1.10.3.1-2.fc7 fast-user-switch-applet.i386 0:2.17.4-5.fc7 file-roller.i386 0:2.18.4-1.fc7 firefox.i386 0:2.0.0.9-1.fc7 gcalctool.i386 0:5.9.14-1.fc7 gdm.i386 1:2.18.4-2.fc7 gedit.i386 1:2.18.2-1.fc7 gnome-applets.i386 1:2.18.0-7.fc7 gnome-bluetooth.i386 0:0.9.1-1.fc7 gnome-bluetooth-libs.i386 0:0.9.1-1.fc7 gnome-desktop.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 gnome-media.i386 0:2.18.0-3.fc7 gnome-netstatus.i386 0:2.12.1-1.fc7 gnome-panel.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 gnome-pilot.i386 0:2.0.15-5.fc7 gnome-power-manager.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 gnome-python2.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 gnome-python2-applet.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 gnome-python2-bonobo.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 gnome-python2-desktop.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 gnome-python2-extras.i386 0:2.14.3-6.fc7 gnome-python2-gconf.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 gnome-python2-gnomeprint.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 gnome-python2-gnomevfs.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 gnome-python2-gtksourceview.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 gnome-python2-libegg.i386 0:2.14.3-6.fc7 gnome-screensaver.i386 0:2.18.2-2.fc7 gnome-session.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 gnome-sharp.i386 0:2.16.0-3.fc7 gnome-terminal.i386 0:2.18.1-1.fc7 gnome-utils.i386 1:2.18.1-2.fc7 gnome-volume-manager.i386 0:2.17.0-7.fc7 gok.i386 0:1.2.2-1.fc7 gthumb.i386 0:2.10.7-1.fc7 gucharmap.i386 0:1.10.0-1.fc7 im-chooser.i386 0:0.3.4-1.fc7 libbonoboui.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 libgail-gnome.i386 0:1.18.0-2.fc7 libgnomekbd.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 libgnomeui.i386 0:2.18.1-2.fc7 nautilus.i386 0:2.18.3-1.fc7 nautilus-cd-burner.i386 0:2.18.2-1.fc7 nautilus-sendto.i386 0:0.10-4.fc7 orca.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 scim.i386 0:1.4.5-21.fc7 scim-bridge.i386 0:0.4.10-1.fc7 scim-bridge-gtk.i386 0:0.4.10-1.fc7 scim-qtimm.i386 0:0.9.4-7.fc7 tomboy.i386 0:0.6.1-2.fc7 vino.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 yelp.i386 0:2.18.1-7.fc7
Complete!

Il problema adesso è che se voglio istallare firefox apparentemente vuole rimettermi libgnome :

yum install firefox
livna 100% |=========================| 2.1 kB 00:00
fedora 100% |=========================| 2.1 kB 00:00
adobe-linux-i386 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
updates 100% |=========================| 2.3 kB 00:00
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package firefox.i386 0:2.0.0.9-1.fc7 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: libgnome-2.so.0 for package: firefox
--> Processing Dependency: libbonoboui-2.so.0 for package: firefox
--> Processing Dependency: libgnomeui-2.so.0 for package: firefox
--> Running transaction check
---> Package libbonoboui.i386 0:2.18.0-1.fc7 set to be updated
---> Package libgnomeui.i386 0:2.18.1-2.fc7 set to be updated
---> Package libgnome.i386 0:2.18.0-4.fc7 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

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Package Arch Version Repository Size
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Installing:
firefox i386 2.0.0.9-1.fc7 updates 21 M
Installing for dependencies:
libbonoboui i386 2.18.0-1.fc7 fedora 396 k
libgnome i386 2.18.0-4.fc7 fedora 971 k
libgnomeui i386 2.18.1-2.fc7 fedora 1.0 M

Transaction Summary
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Install 4 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 23 M
Is this ok [y/N]:

Che faccio!??!?!

S.

Perchè quello che vuoi installare è firefox con il supporto gnome(ora capisco perchè te lo toglieva)... ..anche se si tratta di ubuntu ti mostro una cosa:

firefox con supporto gnome:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/web/firefox-gnome-support

come vedi c'è quella libreria...mentre questo è firefox normale:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/web/firefox

devi trovare il pacchetto giusto su fedora....

escanor, 16/11/2007 13.19:

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Perchè quello che vuoi installare è firefox con il supporto gnome(ora capisco perchè te lo toglieva)... ..anche se si tratta di ubuntu ti mostro una cosa:

firefox con supporto gnome:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/web/firefox-gnome-support

come vedi c'è quella libreria...mentre questo è firefox normale:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/web/firefox

devi trovare il pacchetto giusto su fedora....

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Senti Esca, pensavo di aggiungere uno o due Gb alla partizione Linux.
Secondo te posso farlo via partition magic su windows o esiste un utility di linux (che ovviaemnte non mi incasini windows, visto che i 2-3 gb andrò a sottrarli da li)?

S.

sasomao, 11/16/2007 3:10 PM:

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Senti Esca, pensavo di aggiungere uno o due Gb alla partizione Linux.
Secondo te posso farlo via partition magic su windows o esiste un utility di linux (che ovviaemnte non mi incasini windows, visto che i 2-3 gb andrò a sottrarli da li)?

S.

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Esiste GParted che funziona benissimo ed è molto simile a partition magic...è un programma scritto per gnome...se vuoi usarlo ti consiglio in via precauzionale di farlo tramite una qualsiasi live (ubuntu va benissimo)...la fai partire e ti troverai tra i programmi gparted lo avvi e fai tutte le operazioni che vuoi da live...

escanor, 16/11/2007 15.24:

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Esiste GParted che funziona benissimo ed è molto simile a partition magic...è un programma scritto per gnome...se vuoi usarlo ti consiglio in via precauzionale di farlo tramite una qualsiasi live (ubuntu va benissimo)...la fai partire e ti troverai tra i programmi gparted lo avvi e fai tutte le operazioni che vuoi da live...

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cmq per semplicità esiste anche Gparted live avviabile da cd o da chiavetta usb
link
ciao

Superpiffer, 16/11/2007 16.17:

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cmq per semplicità esiste anche Gparted live avviabile da cd o da chiavetta usb
link
ciao

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Grazie anche a te super.
Si infatti forse da chiavetta è piu rapido.

Una cosa, che non c'entra niente. Non riesco a fare si che konqueror mi si apra di default sulla mia home o su / (si apre su /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html io cmq non lo voglio usare per andare su internet, ma come "gestione risorse")
inoltre non riesco a fargli restare in memoria come voglio che visualizzi i file (in lista dettagliata, lui invece mi da l'anteprima)

Grazie x ogni aiuto, a tutti
S.